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Title P.Herc. 380
Work Philodemus, De rhetorica
Content Philodemus; De rhetorica (peri rhetorikes)? (Gomperz)
Reference Edition 83856. Siegfried Sudhaus, Philodemi Volumina Rhetorica, (Lipsiae 1896). fr. 1 fr. 3 fr. 5 leer leer
Previous Edition 83872. Herculanensium Voluminum quae supersunt. Collectio altera, (Napoli 1874).
Fragments P.Herc. 380 fr. 1; P.Herc. 380 fr. 2; P.Herc. 380 fr. 3; P.Herc. 380 fr. 4; P.Herc. 380 fr. 5
Support Material papyrus
Date I v. Chr.
More from the period between 100 BCE and 1 BCE
Origin Herculaneum (Campania, Italy) oder Italy (?)
More from Herculaneum (Campania, Italy) oder Italy (?)
Place Stored (Ancient) Pisones,  Herculaneum,  Italy
Form and Layout papyrus roll (columns: 5+)
Genre prose; philosophy
Culture literature
Religion classical
Images chartes.it/.../400; chartes.it/.../1760
Print Illustrations G. Cavallo, Libri scritture scribi a Ercolano, Naples 1983, pl. 49; G. Cavallo, Pap. Flor. 36, pl. 32d; Segno e Testo 8 (2010), pl. 4
Availability © Digital Corpus of Literary Papyri. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.

Trismegistos: 62409 [source]

Publications Sudhaus, Philodemi volumina rhetorica 2 p. 190-192 (1896) = Herculanensium voluminum Collectio altera (VH2) 9 p. 11-14 (1874)
Inv. no. Naples, Biblioteca Nazionale 107814/369
Date BC 99 - 1
Language Greek
Provenance Italy, Campania - Herculaneum (Ercolano)[found]; Italy[written]

Introduction

This papyrus has been digitally edited by Vanessa Zetzmannand and Marcel Moser and revised by Holger Essler as part of the Project Anagnosis and the Würzburger Zentrum für Epikureismusforschung

DCLP transcription: 62409 [xml]

fragment 1P.Herc. 380 fr. 1
Engraved 1845-1874 by Luigi Corazza

ὁμ[ο]ίως, τέχνη δ' ἐγένε-
το τοῦ καλῶς, ὃ̣ καὶ ἐκ[ά-]
λουν το[ῦ πι]στικῶς, ἡ̣ [τέ-]
χνη δ' ἐγ[έ]νετο τοῦ κα̣λῶ̣ς·
5ὥστε καὶ τὸ λέγειν ἡ φ[ύ-]
[σ]ις ἔδωκ̣εν, τὸ δὲ καλῶς
[λ]έγ̣ειν ἡ τέχνη· καθὸ δὴ
ται  ̣αιτ  ̣  ̣λ̣ι̣  ̣η  ̣  ̣  ̣α  ̣
τοῦτον α[⁦ -ca.?- ⁩] fragment 3P.Herc. 380 fr. 3
Engraved 1845-1874 by Carlo Orazi

τονπη  ̣ωι. Π̣ῶς δ' ἐλθόν-
τε[ς] ἐπὶ τοῦτο μακρὰν
νῦν διδά[σ]κ̣ειν καο  ̣δη
κα[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣μ]ὴ̣ πολλ[ὰ]ς
5τέχνας φ̣ύσει [ἔχειν τὰς]
με[ι]μήσεις; διὸ καὶ πάν-
τα ταῦτα [φύσ]ε[ι] ὑπόκε[ι-]
ται  ̣  ̣  ̣ι̣ν̣λ̣  ̣λαμενου
[- ca.12 -] μεν[  ̣  ̣] fragment 4P.Herc. 380 fr. 4
Engraved 1845-1874 by Carlo Orazi

0[ὅπως δή]
ποτ̣[ε] καὶ ὡς ἔτυ̣[χ̣]εν καὶ
φύσεως ἔργον, τὸ δὲ κα-
λῶς τέχνης· ἐμοὶ μὲν
γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο φαίνεται,
5σὺ δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς κρείνεις δύ
νασθαι π̣αρὰ̣ σ̣οῦ. Πᾶσαι α̣ἱ
λε[γό]μεναι στο̣χαστικαὶ
τέ̣[χ]να[ι], ὧν τὰ μὲν θεω-
ρήμ̣α[θ]' ἕστηκ̣εν τ̣[ὰ] δ̣ὲ τέ-
10[λη οὐχ] ἕστηκ[εν] fragment 5P.Herc. 380 fr. 5
Engraved 1845-1874 by Francesco Biondi

πολλάκις ἐκ τῆς τέχνης
ἐπιγείνεται̣· διὸ καὶ λί̣[αν λέ-]
γει μέν τις ἄφρον· εἰ σα̣φῶ̣ς,
καὶ πιστικῶς, διὰ δὲ τ̣[ο]ῦ-
5το̣ καὶ καλῶς φύσει, χά-
ριν δὲ τοῦ καὶ πολλάκις
τούτου τυνχάνειν τ[έ-]
χνης δεῖται. Τούτ[ων τοι-]
[γαρο]ῦ̣ν οὕτως ἐχόν[των]

Editorial History; All History; (detailed)

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