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Title Request to Zenon from Alexandros for his Intervention with Apollonios
Publications P.Col. 3 9
More in series P.Col.More in series P.Col., vol. 3
Support/Dimensions Papyrus
Post-Concordance BL Entries VIII 88
Translations White, Ancient Letters (1986), 13
Origin unbekannt
More from unbekannt
Material Papyrus
Date vor 27. Apr. 257 v.Chr.
More from the period before 257 BCE
Commentary Zu Z. 7-8 vgl. Tyche 25, 2010, S. 214f., Korr. Tyche 664.
Mentioned Dates
  • Z. 13:27. Apr. 257 v.Chr.
Print Illustrations nach S. 44
Subjects Brief (privat); Alexandros an Zenon; Lohn; Zahlung
Images http://wwwapp.cc.columbia.edu/ldpd/app/apis/item?mode=item&k...
License Creative Commons License © Heidelberger Gesamtverzeichnis der griechischen Papyrusurkunden Ägyptens. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.

Trismegistos: 1730 [source]

Publications P. Col. Zen. 1 9 (Westermann, William Linn / Hasenoehrl, E. S.; 1934) = White, Light from ancient letters 13 (White, John Lee / ; 1986)
Inv. no. New York, Columbia University P. 291
Date BC 257 Apr 27 before (P02, year 28, Dystros 24)
Language Greek
Provenance Egypt, L01 - Memphis[destination]; Egypt, 00a - Philadelpheia (Gharabet el-Gerza)[found]; Egypt, 00 - Arsinoites (Fayum)[written]
Archive Zenon son of Agreophon
People mentioned people
Places mentioned places

Catalog Record: columbia.apis.p9 [xml]

Title Letter April 27, 257 BC (date of receipt)
Author Alexandros, cavalry commander, 9 in Pap.Lugd.Bat. XXI, p. 280
Summary Letter of Alexandros to Zenon: Menetos who assured him he would receive arrears of pay died; Alexandros agrees with Mys that a memorandum should be sent to Apollonios about the problem since he did not receive anything, and requests the intervention of Zenon
Citations P.Col. III 9 P.Col.Zen. I 9 [J.L. White, "Light from Ancient Letters," no. 13; corrections and suggestions in "Corrigenda to volume 1," P.Col. IV p. 203; many corrections, see Pap.Lugd.Bat. XXI, p. 123-124]
P.Col.:3:9
Inv. Id Col.inv. 291
Support/Dimensions 1papyrus ; 25.5 x 14 cm
Language In Greek
Date 257 BCE
More from the period between 257 BCE and 256 BCE
Note (general) Almost complete: line ends are missing (9 to 13 letters)
Note (general) Written across the fibers with 11 lines; back along the fibers, with address and docket
Note (general) Plate in P.Col. III opposite p. 44: fine hand
Subjects Several people mentioned, -- Pap.Lugd.Bat. XXI, Prosopography pp. 274-457; Papyri
License Creative Commons License This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License.

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DDbDP transcription: p.col.3.9 [xml]

257 BC Philadelphia

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Ἀλέξανδρος Ζήνωνι χαίρειν. εἰ ἔρρωσαί τε καὶ ἐν τοῖς λοιποῖς [κατὰ νοῦν]
ἀπαλλάσσεις(*), εἴη ἂν ὡς ἡμεῖς βουλόμεθα. ἐρρώμεθα δὲ καὶ αὐτοί. παραγ[ινομένου]
πρὸς ὑμᾶς Μυὸς ἔδοξεν ἡμῖν βέλτιον εἶναι αὐτῶι τε τῶι Μυὶ ὑπόμνημα ἀ̣[ποστεῖλαι ἐν ὧι]
μνησθῆι Ἀπολλωνίωι περὶ τῆς συντάξεως ἧς ἔταξεν ἡμῖμ(*) Μένετ[ος. ὑ]πὸ τ̣[ούτου δʼ οὐδὲ](*) [τὴν]
5ὀφειλομένην κεκομ̣ίσμεθα ο̣ὔτε ἀφʼ οὗ χρόνου κεῖνος(*) τετελεύτηκε[ν οὐδεὶς ἡμῖν(?)](*)
ἀποδίδωσιν. καλῶς δʼ ἔχειν ὑπέλαβον καί σοι γράψαι ὅπως ἐάν τινά σου χρεί[αν τὰ πράγμα-]
τα(*) ἔχηι συναντιλάβηι φιλοτίμως καὶ ἡμῶν ἕνεκεν καὶ Μενέτου. οἶδ̣α γὰ̣[ρ ὅτι σοῦ](*)
βουληθέντος πάντα ἡμῖν τὰ φιλάνθρωπα ἔσται παρʼ Ἀπολλωνίου, καὶ ἡμεῖς δ̣[υνησόμεθα](*)
διὰ σὲ σεσῶισθαι(*) καὶ ἀνεστάναι. περὶ ὧν σπουδάσομεν καὶ αὐτοὶ καθ̣ʼ ὅσον̣ [ἡμῖ]ν̣ κ[αὶ δυνατὸν]
10τὰς χάριτας ἀποδιδόναι σοι.
⁦ vac. ? ⁩ εὐτύχει. v
(hand 2) Ἀλέξανδρος περὶ τῆς γινομένης
αὐτῶι συντάξεως. (ἔτους) κη Δύστρου κδ.
ἐμ(*) Μέμφει.
Ζήνωνι

Apparatus


^ r.2. απαλλασεις prev. ed.
^ r.4. l. ἡμῖν
^ r.4. [ἀ]ποτ̣[αχθῆναι ἕως] prev. ed.
^ r.5. l. ἐκεῖνος
^ r.5. [τὴν σύνταξιν] prev. ed.
^ r.7. [παρόν]τα prev. ed.
^ r.7. D. Kaltsas, Tyche 25 (2010) 215 : οἷα ἂν α̣[ἰτήσωμέν σου] prev. ed.
^ r.8. δ̣[ιαγνωσόμεθα] prev. ed.
^ r.9. l. σεσῷσθαι
^ v.14. l. ἐν

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APIS Translation (English)

Alexandros to Zenon, greeting. If your health is good and your affairs move (according to your desire,) it would be a pleasure to me. I am well. Since Mys was about to join you, it seemed best to me and to Mys himself to send a memorandum (in which) he should remind Apollonios about the allowance which Mer)Ptos had ordered to be paid to me until I had received what was T i due. Since the time of his [Menetos'] death he [Apollonios] has not paid (the allowance). I have concluded that it would be well to write also to you in 9rder that, if the matter requires your assistance, you may co6perate zealously both on my account and that-of Menetos. Whatever I may ask, if you desire it, will meet with every favor from Apollonios; and I will be cognizant of the fact that I have been saved and restored through you. Regarding these favors I also shall endeavor, in so far as possible, to make return of gratitude to you. Good-bye. [Verso:] Alexandros, concerning the pay coming to him. Year 28, Dystros 24. To Zenon. In Memphis.