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Title Taeis... to her Son
Publications P.Mich. 8 510
More in series P.Mich.More in series P.Mich., vol. 8
Support/Dimensions Papyrus
Post-Concordance BL Entries ; XII 123; XIII 138
Translations Bagnall - Cribiore, Women's Letters (2006), S. 268; Bagnall - Cribiore, Women's Letters (2008), B1.8, Nr. 145.; Strassi, L’archivio di Claudius Tiberianus (2008), S. 67f.
Origin Alexandria (?)
More from Alexandria (?)
Material Papyrus
Date frühes II
More from the period between 101 CE and 125 CE
Commentary Gehört zum Tiberianus - Archiv. Vgl., u.a. zur Datierung und zur Archivzugehörigkeit, ZPE 148, 2004, S. 225-234. Neuedition: Strassi, L’archivio di Claudius Tiberianus, 17 (S. 65-68); zur Datierung vgl. ebenda, S. 79-97.
Subjects Brief (privat); Taeis an ihren Sohn; Tod in Alexandria; Bezahlung öffentlicher Abgaben
Images http://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/apis/x-2458...
License Creative Commons License © Heidelberger Gesamtverzeichnis der griechischen Papyrusurkunden Ägyptens. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.

Trismegistos: 27120 [source]

Publications P. Mich. 8 510 (Winter, John Garrett / Youtie, Herbert Chayyim; 1951) = Strassi, L'archivio di Claudius Tiberianus (AfP Beihefte 26) 17 (Strassi Zaccaria, Silvia / ; 2008) = ZPE 148 (2004), p. 225-234 (Strassi Zaccaria, Silvia / ; 2004) = Bagnall / Cribiore, Women's letters p. 268 (Bagnall, Roger S. / Cribiore, Raffaella; 2006)
Inv. no. Ann Arbor, Michigan University, Library P. 5404
Date AD 100 - 125
Language Greek
Provenance Egypt, L00 - Alexandria[written]; Egypt, 00a - Karanis (Kom Aushim)[find place & destination]
Archive Claudius Tiberianus
People mentioned people
Places mentioned places

Catalog Record: michigan.apis.2458 [xml]

Title Private Letter
Author Taeis[---]
Summary Fragmentary letter from Taeis[...] to her son
Citations Winter JG-Youtie HC, PMich VIII, 510, 1951
P.Mich.:8:510
Inv. Id P.Mich.inv. 5404
Support/Dimensions 1 papyrus ; 12 X 22.8 cm
Condition badly damaged, particularly along the 5 folds; the verso contains faint and illegible traces of the address
Lines Recto - 35 + 2 in left margin
Recto/Verso Source of description: Recto
Hands See electronic version of PMich VIII, 510
Origin Unknown place, province of Egypt
More from Unknown place, province of Egypt
Language Greek
Date IInd century/IIIrd A.D.
More from the period between 100 CE and 199 CE
Note (general) Location: Cairo
Note (general) Pub. status: Recto; Verso described
Note (related) Found with the archive of Claudius Tiberianus (& family), but not part of it?
Subjects Alexandria; Agriculture; Family; Health (death; plague?); Sale; Writing Material; Documentary; Papyrus
Associated Names his (unnamed) father; his (unnamed) sister (& children); Sempronius, (brother of?); Nemesous; Taseus; Nephotianos (Nepotianus); Serenus(?)
License Creative Commons License This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License.

Citations

DDbDP transcription: p.mich.8.510 [xml]

II/III spc Karanis

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Ταεις[- ca.9 -] τῷ [υἱῷ κ]αὶ [κ]υρίῳ
πλεῖστ[α χαίρειν]. πρὸ [μὲν] πάν[τ]ων
εὔχομ[αί σε ὑγ]ι̣έ̣ν̣[ι]ν̣(*) καὶ [εὐτ]υ̣χ̣ῖ̣ν̣(*). ε̣ἰ ἐ̣-
π̣ώλ̣[η]σα̣[ς τοῦ] π̣α̣τρὸς [  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]ν̣  ̣  ̣[  ̣]  ̣
5τ̣ε̣σ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]μη  ̣α[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣[  ̣  ̣ Σεμ-]
π̣ρων̣[ίου τοῦ ἀ]δελφοῦ [  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]ρ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]
δραχμ[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣  ̣[  ̣] χα[ρταρί]διν ὃ εἴ-
ρηχές(*) μ̣[οι ὅτι] παρὰ τῆ[ς   ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]ς [λάβ]ω̣
αὐτὸ εἴ[λη]φ̣α̣. υἱέ̣, γράψ̣ο̣[ν μο]ι̣ π̣[ερὶ τ]ῆ̣[ς]
10σωτηρ[ί]ας σου. οὐ δ[ύ]νομέ(*) [σ]υ̣(*) ἄρτι̣ ε̣[ἰ]πῖν(*)
  ̣  ̣αβ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣σης [  ̣]ηνι  ̣[  ̣]  ̣  ̣ν[  ̣  ̣  ̣]νο
μασ[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]πν  ̣[  ̣]με ο̣[  ̣  ̣]  ̣μ[  ̣  ̣  ̣].
τασ  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]σε Νεμεσοῦ [ἐ]πὶ(*) μεγάλη
θνῆσ[ις γέ]γονε ἐν Ἀλεξανδρίᾳ. ὥσ-
15περ [σύ με] ἐκυβέρνας [σ]ου ἐχόνο-
μά μου ὄντος, καὶ ἄρτι πάλιν σύ με
κυβερνᾷς ἀπόντος σου. γεινώσ-
κειν(*) σε θέλω ὅτ[ι] ὠχεύομεν(*) τὰ
φυνίκια(*) τὰ ἐν τ[ῇ] ἀπάτῃ(*). ἐάν μου
20ἀκούσῃ Τασεῦς, κ[αὶ] λάβῃ παρʼ ἐμοῦ
καλάθιν   ̣ε  ̣  ̣π̣ε̣[  ̣ο]υ. πεπλήρωκα
πάντα τὰ δημό[σ]ια τῇ σῇ χάριτι.
τὸ μικκὸν(*) χαρτ[α]ρίδιν ὅ εἴρηχες(*)
ὅτι μὴ δῦ(*) αὐτ[ὸ, τοῦ]το μηδενὶ οὐ-
25κ ἔδωκα· σὺ αὐτ[ός], ὖπον(*), δώσις(*). οὐ-
δέ[ν]α εὕρηκα ἐ[πʼ] ἐ̣μὲ ἐν τῦς(*) φίλυς(*)
ε̣  ̣[  ̣]σ̣μα[  ̣  ̣] ἄξια [σι]ν̣τόνια(*) τρία ει
  ̣[  ̣  ̣]  ̣  ̣[  ̣]α[  ̣  ̣  ̣]τι [ἀπέ]χις(*) ἀντίδ[ω]ρ̣ον
  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣]να[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣]  ̣υφαιης
30ε̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣]  ̣  ̣  ̣[  ̣  ̣] Νεφωτιαν[ὸ]ς
ἀ̣ν̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣]α[  ̣  ̣  ̣]  ̣νε[  ̣]  ̣  ̣χα  ̣  ̣υ χο̣ῦ̣ς
τ[έσ]σ̣ερα[ς](*) [τὸ] καθʼ [ἡ]μέρα[ν] εἵνα(*) ε̣-
τ̣[  ̣  ̣]α̣ξη̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣] καθ[ὼ]ς πα  ̣  ̣  ̣εν  ̣  ̣ν̣
π  ̣  ̣η̣στ[  ̣  ̣]πορτ[  ̣]παν ἀμηλε̣ῖ̣ς(*)
35Σερηνο. [  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]δ  ̣ο[  ̣]  ̣δι  ̣[  ̣]  ̣εν[  ̣]  ̣ης̣ ms
  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣ε[  ̣  ̣]  ̣[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣]ν τῇ μητρὶ ἀτοῦ(*) ἐπὶ(*) ἀγωνιᾷ περὶ αὐτοῦ.
ἀ[σπάζεταί σε] ἡ ἀδελφή σου καὶ τὰ τέκνα αὐτῆς.

Apparatus


^ ctr.3. l. [ὑγ]ιαίνειν
^ ctr.3. l. εὐτυχεῖν
^ ctr.7-8. l. εἴ |ρηκάς
^ ctr.10. l. δύναμαί
^ ctr.10. l. σοι
^ ctr.10. l. εἰπεῖν
^ ctr.13. l. ἐπεὶ
^ ctr.17-18. l. γινώσ |κειν
^ ctr.18. l. ὀχεύομεν
^ ctr.19. l. φοινίκια
^ ctr.19. BL 12.123 : Ἀπάτῃ prev. ed.
^ ctr.23. l. μικρὸν
^ ctr.23. l. εἴρηκας
^ ctr.24. l. δοῖ
^ ctr.25. l. εἶπον
^ ctr.25. l. δώσεις
^ ctr.26. l. τοῖς
^ ctr.26. l. φίλοις
^ ctr.27. l. σινδόνια
^ ctr.28. l. ἀπέχεις
^ ctr.32. l. τέσσαρας
^ ctr.32. l. ἵνα
^ ctr.34. l. ἀμελεῖς
^ ms.36. l. α<ὐ>τοῦ
^ ms.36. l. ἐπεὶ

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APIS Translation (English)

(12 lines too damaged to be translated) . . . since there have been many deaths in Alexandria. Just as you were my guide while you were with me, now again you guide me although you are absent. I want you to know that we are carrying out fertilization of the dates that are in the orchard. If Taseus follows my instructions, she shall also receive from me a basket of . . . . I have paid all the public dues, thanks to you. The little papyrus that you told me not to give to anyone, I did not give; you yourself, I said, will give it . . . . (12 more lines damaged)